6pm starts are ok with me too, lights is a must as I was caught out last wednesday and felt vunerable, the clocks go back on Halloween october 31st BST ends. I think phil has a point that when some of us sprint on for a bit of fun we need to do that when its light and when darkness falls, it musketeer slogan time, one for all and all for one ! and all that !!. This will need to be well organised and properly riden, do you think dark lanes are advisable at this time or stick to semi busy/ lit roads ?.