Ok Ken. Meet you on the Ormonds Close / Bowsland Way roundabout, say 9am ? The forum won't let me post any links yet (due to my new membership) so I can't post a route but I was thinking of heading out Didmarton way and coming back via Tormarton. 42 miles, 2,170 ft of climbs, do you fancy it or would you like to go somewhere else, I'm easy.